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[Venezuela] Helicopter fires on Supreme court. Staged?
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NewsBeanie
2017-07-04 22:22:32 UTC
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Title: Helicopter open fires on Venezuelan Supreme Court, but was it staged?
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Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:14:31 -0400
Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2017/0628/Helicopter-open-fires-on-Venezuelan-Supreme-Court-but-was-it-staged

President Maduro classified an assault on Venezuela’s Supreme Court, strafed by
a helicopter on Tuesday but injured no one, as a ‘terrorist attack,’ while
social media users accused the president of staging the incident as a ruse to
crack down on rebellious citizens.
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jat
2017-07-05 17:55:17 UTC
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This is something that you can put in the Conspiracy Theory basket...
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Post by NewsBeanie
Title: Helicopter open fires on Venezuelan Supreme Court, but was it staged?
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:14:31 -0400
Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2017/0628/Helicopter-open-fires-on-Venezuelan-Supreme-Court-but-was-it-staged
President Maduro classified an assault on Venezuela’s Supreme Court, strafed by
a helicopter on Tuesday but injured no one, as a ‘terrorist attack,’ while
social media users accused the president of staging the incident as a ruse to
crack down on rebellious citizens.
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[1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/feeds/world/~4/adMXULleGS8 (image)
PL
2017-07-05 18:04:08 UTC
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Post by jat
This is something that you can put in the Conspiracy Theory basket...
Nope.
I know you support dictators like Castro and Maduro, but even you must
see the attack was:
- overly dramatic, a "melodrama" like Maduro claiming to talk to Chavez
through a bird
- nonsensical, like Maduro claiming to talk to Chavez through a bird

See:
http://nbclatino.com/2013/04/03/acting-president-maduro-says-hugo-chavez-appeared-to-him-as-a-little-bird/

This has ALL the hallmarks of a Maduro stupidity.
Staged most likely. Provoked (provoking a couple of extremist by killing
family members) unlikely but possible.
Source: Al hermano del inspector Óscar Pérez lo mataron hace dos semanas
CubanetCubanet -
https://www.cubanet.org/venezuela/al-hermano-del-inspector-oscar-perez-lo-mataron-hace-dos-semanas/

An attack and coup attempt by the peaceful opposition as Maduro and some
(not all) Chavists claim: no.

Note that:
- the can't find the man
- they can't find even the helicopter
Get real.
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-- /jat Knowledge will set you free El conocimiento te hará libre On
Post by NewsBeanie
Title: Helicopter open fires on Venezuelan Supreme Court, but was it staged?
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:14:31 -0400
Link:http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2017/0628/Helicopter-open-fires-on-Venezuelan-Supreme-Court-but-was-it-staged
President Maduro classified an assault on Venezuela’s Supreme Court, strafed by
a helicopter on Tuesday but injured no one, as a ‘terrorist attack,’ while
social media users accused the president of staging the incident as a ruse to
crack down on rebellious citizens.
[image 1]
[1]:http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/feeds/world/~4/adMXULleGS8 (image)
jat
2017-07-05 17:57:28 UTC
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This is something that you can put in the Conspiracy Theory basket...

/jat
Knowledge will set you free
El conocimiento te hará libre
Post by NewsBeanie
Title: Helicopter open fires on Venezuelan Supreme Court, but was it staged?
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:14:31 -0400
Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2017/0628/Helicopter-open-fires-on-Venezuelan-Supreme-Court-but-was-it-staged
President Maduro classified an assault on Venezuela’s Supreme Court, strafed by
a helicopter on Tuesday but injured no one, as a ‘terrorist attack,’ while
social media users accused the president of staging the incident as a ruse to
crack down on rebellious citizens.
[image 1]
[1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/feeds/world/~4/adMXULleGS8 (image)
PL
2017-07-05 18:17:28 UTC
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On 7/5/2017 7:57 PM, jat wrote:
SPAM. Dual post. see my reply to the other one

PL
2017-07-05 18:11:37 UTC
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So ludicrous that only "bird-man" Maduro could have come up with it.
Post by NewsBeanie
Title: Helicopter open fires on Venezuelan Supreme Court, but was it staged?
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:14:31 -0400
Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2017/0628/Helicopter-open-fires-on-Venezuelan-Supreme-Court-but-was-it-staged
President Maduro classified an assault on Venezuela’s Supreme Court, strafed by
a helicopter on Tuesday but injured no one, as a ‘terrorist attack,’ while
social media users accused the president of staging the incident as a ruse to
crack down on rebellious citizens.
[image 1]
[1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/feeds/world/~4/adMXULleGS8 (image)
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"Helicopter open fires on Venezuelan Supreme Court, but was it staged?

President Maduro classified an assault on Venezuela's Supreme Court,
strafed by a helicopter on Tuesday but injured no one, as a 'terrorist
attack,' while social media users accused the president of staging the
incident as a ruse to crack down on rebellious citizens.
Joshua Goodman
Associated Press

June 28, 2017 Caracas, Venezuela—A police helicopter fired on
Venezuela's Supreme Court and Interior Ministry in what President
Nicolas Maduro said was a thwarted "terrorist attack" aimed at ousting
him from power.

The confusing exchange, which is bound to ratchet up tensions in a
country already paralyzed by months of deadly anti-government protests,
took place as Mr. Maduro was speaking live on state television Tuesday.
He later said the helicopter had fired on the pro-government court with
grenades, one of which didn't go off, helping avoid any loss of life.

Adding to the intrigue, pictures of a blue police helicopter carrying an
anti-government banner appeared on social media around the same time as
a video in which an alleged police pilot, identified as Oscar Perez,
called for a rebellion against Maduro's "tyranny" as part of a coalition
of members of the country's security forces. Authorities said they were
still searching for the man.

"We have two choices: be judged tomorrow by our conscience and the
people or begin today to free ourselves from this corrupt government,"
the man said while reading from a statement with four people dressed in
military fatigues, ski masks and carrying what looked like assault
rifles standing behind him.

Many of Maduro's opponents took to social media to accuse the president
of orchestrating an elaborate ruse to justify a crackdown against
Venezuelans seeking to block his plans to rewrite the constitution.
Venezuela has been roiled by anti-government protests the past three
months that have left at least 75 people dead and hundreds injured.
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After the incident, Maduro sounded alternately calm and angry as he told
the audience about what had happened in the airspace just beyond the
presidential palace.

"It could've caused a tragedy with several dozen dead and injured," he
said, calling it a "terrorist attack."

Later, Information Minister Ernesto Villegas read a statement from the
government accusing the helicopter of firing 15 shots against the
Interior Ministry as a reception was taking place for 80 people
celebrating national journalist's day. It then flew a short distance to
the court, which was in session, and launched what he said were four
Israeli-made grenades of "Colombian origin," two of them against
national guardsmen protecting the building.

The pro-government president of the high court said there were no
injuries from the attack and that the area was still being surveyed for
damages.

Mr. Villegas said security forces were being deployed to apprehend Mr.
Perez as well as recover the heisted German-built Bolkow helicopter.
Photos of the pilot standing in front of the United States Capitol in
Washington and a US Coast Guard helicopter were displayed on state
television to further bolster the government's case that he was taking
instructions from the CIA and the US Embassy.

Maduro said one of the pilots involved in the alleged attack used to fly
for his former interior minister, Miguel Rodriguez Torres, who he
accused of working for the CIA. Mr. Torres, who has been leading a
campaign against Maduro made up of leftist supporters of the late Hugo
Chavez, immediately dismissed the accusation as baseless.

As the drama was unfolding outside the court, inside magistrates were
busy issuing a number of rulings further hemming in the opposition. One
dismissed a challenge against Maduro's plans for a constitutional
assembly by chief prosecutor Luisa Ortega Diaz, a longtime loyalist who
broke with the government over the issue.

The helicopter incident capped a volatile 24 hours that began with
widespread looting in the coastal city of Maracay on Monday night and
continued Tuesday when opposition lawmakers got into a heated scuffle
with security forces assigned to protect the National Assembly.

At least 68 supermarkets, pharmacies and liquor stores were looted and
several government offices burned following anti-government protests in
Maracay, which is about a 90 minute drive from Caracas.

Maduro condemned the violence but with a stern warning to his opponents
that's likely to only further inflame an already tense situation.

"We will never surrender. And what we couldn't accomplish through votes
we will with weapons," he said.

On Tuesday, opposition lawmakers got into fisticuffs with national
guardsmen as they tried to enter the National Assembly. In a video
circulating on social media, the commander of a national guard unit
protecting the legislature aggressively shoved National Assembly
President Julio Borges as he's walking away from a heated discussion.

At nightfall, a few dozen people were still gathered inside the
neoclassical building as pro-government supporters stood outside
threatening violence."

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2017/0628/Helicopter-open-fires-on-Venezuelan-Supreme-Court-but-was-it-staged
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